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Phantom Poodles

The genes that create Poodle colors, how to pair dogs...why certain colors exist....free Poodle advice for life...and so much more
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Issues with Phantom Poodles

Before 2005, in Germany (a country in which the Poodle is highly popular), phantoms were only allowed to be bred with other phantom Poodles.  Whenever an apricot Poodle puppy was born,  the German Poodle Club did not allow that pup to bred.  These rules caused too much inline breeding to be done.

Inline breeding is the pairing of dogs who are very closely related, such as father to daughter and is considered unethical by most reputable breeders in the U.S.  

The inline breeding caused bloodlines to develop too long of a lower jaw,  overbites,  incorrect number of teeth, and premature color fading.    This led to a drastic & needed change that allowed Phantoms to be mated with black or apricot Poodles. 
This is slowly, yet steadily, decreasing the above stated flaws. 

Currently, the AKC does not recognize Phantom Poodles in Conformation events, but does allow them to participate in Agility and Obedience.
Overview

While it is the solid Poodle that is the most common, there is much to discuss regarding Phantom Poodle coloring (pronounced fantom) , mismarks such as the Tuxedo, partis and so much more.

Let's take a closer look into the world of Poodle colors to help explain what these colors are and why they exist.




Phantom Poodles

A phantom Poodle is not a different breed or type of dog, this is simply a term to describe a particular coloring of the dog.

This type of coloring, while extremely beautiful and preferred by many Poodle owners, is not yet accepted by the AKC in regard to conformation.

This is much different than parti colored Poodles, even though both parti and phantoms have a mixture of 2 colors.  This term only refers to Poodles who specific markings on a solid background. The solid will usually be:
  • Black, cream, apricot, red, white, silver or brown
These dogs are broken down into more detailed groups:
  • Black phantoms - black & apricot, black & red, black & cream, black & gray, black & brown or black & silver
  • Chocolate phantoms - Brown & apricot
  • Red phantoms - red & apricot
  • Silver phantoms - silver & cream
The markings must occur on certain parts of the dogs' coat.  Many refer to these markings as Dobie markings (short for Doberman), however this pattern also appears on Dachshunds, certain Spaniels, Yorkies, Manchester Terriers and certain Coonhounds.   These markings must be:
  • Above each eye
  • On the sides of the muzzle (also referred to as the side of the cheeks)
  • Across the dog's chest
  • Down the legs
  • Under the tail
All phantom Poodles are born with their markings.  This does not occur as the dog ages.

Phantoms are genetically linked to brindle Poodles.  Therefore, a phantom Poodle dam or sire can produce a litter of  brindle pups and a brindle Poodle dam or sire can produce a litter of phantom puppies. 

With most dog breeds, brindle is a term that means fur that is striped, quite similar to a tabby cat or a tiger.  However, with Poodles, brindle means "sable".  Sable is a term that means that the coat is one color yet the tips of the hairs are black.   With most dogs, the sabling (black tips) fade out or completely disappear with age.

Genes


Phantom poodles must have a ky/ky genotype  (non-solid black that allows other colors to be expressed) plus an E (allows for brindling) or EM (gives a black mask) , and also be at/a (the gene that allows for tan points)

Parti Poodles, Mismarks and Ticking information here

Photos & Much More Information

The colors of a Poodle is a very complex topic. This, of course  is an overview.  Do you know the terms used for each part of a Poodle's body that color appears on?  Do you know which color to register a Poodle if their color is to be changing as they grow?  Did you ever see photos of every Poodle color in the world?

Would you like to see:
  • Photos of every color in the AKC list of Poodle colors
  • Photos of colors that you do not see on the AKC list of colors, but breeders do have on their AKC applications
  • Explanation of color genes, in terms anyone can understand, to describe how the pairing of certain Poodle create certain colored litters  
  • Photos of every single type of marking a Poodle can have
  • Photos of every place a color can fall on a Poodle
  • Detailed and easy to understand explanation of coloring, pigmentation & why certain colors exist
  • Free Poodle advice, for free...for life...direct to you from the AllPoodleInfo Experts
We have all of this for you in the AllPoodle Info Book (downloadable ebook), as it just does not fit into 1 website!



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